Show Notes
Past Unstress Health Episode: Professor Thomas Seyfried – Cancer as a Metabolic Disease: Taking Control
Past Unstress Health Episode: Dr Dominic D’Agostino – Keto Nutrition
Author of the following books, currently in print:
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- PEO Solution (with Robert Rowen, MD):
- The 24-Hour Diet:
- The Hidden Story of Cancer (6th edition):
Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction to Prof. Brian Peskin and essential fatty acids
03:47 – Why processed oils are harmful
09:36 – Fish oil myths: What science really says
19:04 – Omega-6 vs. omega-3: Balancing the equation
37:32 – Otto Warburg’s cancer research and oxygenation
47:08 – How to choose unprocessed, organic oils
50:16 – Coronary calcium CT scores and reversing heart disease
54:43 – The role of low-carb diets in chronic disease management
Prof. Brian Peskin on Myths & Facts of Essential Fatty Acids
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:00:01] Hi, Dr Ron. Here it. I want to invite you to join our Unstress Health community. Now, like this podcast, it’s independent of industry and focuses on taking a holistic approach to human health and to the health of the planet. The two are inseparable. There are so many resources available with membership, including regular live Q&A on specific topics with special guests, including many with our amazing Unstress Health Advisory panel. Now, we’ve done hundreds of podcasts over listening to with some amazing experts on a wide range of topics. Many are world leaders, but with membership we have our Unstress Lab podcast series where we take the best of several guests and carefully curated specific topics for episodes which are jam packed full of valuable insights. So join the Unstress health community. If you’re watching this on our YouTube channel. Click on the link below or just visit Unstress health.com to see what’s on offer and join now. I look forward to connecting with you. Hello and welcome to Unstress. My name is Dr Ron Ehrlich. Now, whenever we hear the story about essential fatty acids, we generally it’s very rarely quite straightforward. Omega three is prone is anti-inflammatory, Omega six is pro-inflammatory. Things like fish oils and good seed oils are bad. And it’s basically that’s the story. But but it’s a lot more nuanced than that. My guest today sheds light on just that, how nuanced the terms essential fatty acids are. My guest is Professor Brian Peskin and Brian is the leading scientists globally recognised as an expert on essential fatty acids and has advanced the work of Otto Warburg in cellular oxygenation. Now this is a fundamental shift. Otto Warburg got a Nobel Prize in the 1930s, but it’s a fundamental shift in how we think of diseases, how they occur in general, diseases in general, but cancers in particular. And we’ve done programs on the metabolic cause of disease. We had Professor Thomas Seyfried on a few years back and we’ve explored disease from a metabolic perspective, from mitochondrial perspective on on many occasions, and that is the work of Otto Warburg, which is interestingly coming back into focus. Now Brian is a graduate of M.I.T. and combines extensive knowledge of engineering, biochemistry and physiology. Now, over the last 20 years, he’s conducted extensive research on the relationships of parent essential oils, a term we discuss in this podcast to cardiovascular disease. And for the last 14 years, Professor Peskin’s work has focussed on cellular immunity to disease and anti-inflammatory pathways, all of which we discuss. He’s authored four books, Radiant Health The 24 Hour Diet, The Hidden Story of Cancer and Parent Essential Oil Solutions. And he’s contributed to numerous journal articles. Look, this gives us a whole new and more nuanced perspective on what essential fatty acids are all about. I hope you enjoy this conversation I had with Professor Brian Peskin. Welcome to the show, Brian.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:03:47] Thanks for having me.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:03:49] Brian. We’re going to be talking about fats today. And fats are being bandied around in health care for the last certainly the last 50 years. And if the evidence is anything to go by, it’s been a very confusing story that hasn’t resulted in great health. So I wondered if we could just start with some basics about fats, good and bad. What’s your view of fats?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:04:12] Well, the whole problem is they’re all saying seed oils are toxic. Right. And that statement is partly true. Processed, adulterated oils are toxic. They will kill you. This was known in 1956. What that means is hydrogenated. Interesting. Horrified. If you’re going into a commercial supermarket, you’re getting processed oils. So the only way they’re not processed is organic. So seed oils have the potential to either be absolutely required for great health or poison. Now, the reason they’re required is people don’t know this and the health professionals never say it. I don’t think they know it either. We have 100 trillion cells. Every trial is a by lipid membrane that’s fat, lipid is fat, and oils out of the half lipid portion of the membrane, half is protein. The other half is whipping. So out of the lipid portion, 25 to 33, a quarter to a third are what I call parent essential oils. That’s our LA, parent. Omega six Linoleic acid. And parent Omega three, which is linoleic acid. I don’t care about the terms. All anybody listening needs to know, doc, is body can’t make either. That is why they are called EFAs, essential oils six can’t go to three, three can’t go to six. And in nature, the vast, vast, vast majority of foods has a ton more omega six than omega three. So nature made this for a reason. And I know what you’re thinking, but Brian ther all saying we’re getting overdosed on omega six, you know, 12 to 1, 20 to 1. When you look at the tissues and organs and do a little algebra 12 to 1, is the number in favour of parent Omega six. So we have 12 times more omega six than omega three in the body and then the average organ or tissue. 4 to 1 in favour of parent omega six. Six and a half to one is your muscles, which is 50% of your body weight in favour of parent Omega six in the fat stores, 1 to 1 in favour of parent omega six. And when you do a little algebra, like I said, you get 12 to 1. So anybody saying we’re getting overdosed with omega six wrong, we are getting overdosed with processed omega six because all the fast food restaurants have highly processed omega six. Even the fine food restaurants, all the commercial frozen food, bagged food is processed omega six. And the reason they’re processing these oils is because you can’t have oatmeal or rice or spaghetti pasta smelling like fish. It’s gone bad. The problem is stopping the oxygen transfer stops the rancidity stops the rusting, but it kills us and Otto Warburg’s work with cancer is all about oxygen transfer and the processed oils. Shut it down and we’ll talk about that in a little while. But the health profession is making an enormous mistake. I guess they don’t know what an adjective is. You heard it before processed. Is that killer unprocessed? Organic and organic is two things, Doc means there’s no chemicals or. You know, anything in the growing of the plant and then in the production of the oils, the oil extraction, there’s no chemicals, typically. I’ll commercial food, oil, whether it’s sunflower oil, safflower oil, olive oil. I don’t care what the oil is. We’ll have a ton of chemicals. Catalyst. Heat it up to 400 degrees. Organic has none of that. So you’re getting a poison. And Dr. Speiteller, who was a top German biochemist at the time I actually talked to him, said all the problem is it’s called oxidised cholesterol because cholesterol transports these oils in the system. So everybody will hear the term oxidised cholesterol. It’s coming in ready made from the food we’re eating. Not going bad in the body. This is the other mistake they all make, all these oil, they’re all going back in the body to go back in the body. They need at least three double bonds. It’s called a bisalellic bond. You have to know organic chemistry. It’s a double bond and a single bond state. Nicole, you don’t need to know that. So what counts is oils like fish oil. We’ve been told you need fish oil, right? Are you told that in Oz too?
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:09:36] Sure.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:09:38] Okay. Fish oils. Antifreeze for a fish. Let me start there. Why? Cause I throw you in frigid water. You would freeze because we have a lot of water and ice. Water freezes at 32 degrees. So nature in either used alcohol, in which case you have a drunk fish. Right. Or long chain. Essential oils, because they don’t freeze either. And then Dr. Rowan, who co-wrote the PR solution for Parent Essential oils, The essential again. So vegetarian. He goes, Brian, I’ll prove that it’s antifreeze. Guess how much less DHEA is in a warm water fish at 70 degrees because there’s rivers and lakes that are 70 degrees said I don’t know. I’m sure it’s a heck of a lot less just more than a heck of a lot. 14 times less. 14 times less. What are we doing? We’re taking super physiologic overdoses of DHEA. And I can give you the numbers the brain uses in a little mint in a little while. You won’t believe how level it is, and it’s going bad immediately. So when it goes bad, immediately DHEA spontaneously oxidises. And actually, Dr. Hobart’s done a lot of work with this. He’s from Australia. He’s a scientist whose work I quoted immensely in PEO Solution. Brilliant, brilliant guy. And this work never makes it into the clinical medical magazines like JAMA, the New England Journal of Medicine, that the clinical physicians, at least in America, read. It stays in the hardcore science like Journal of Biologic Chemistry, Journal of Lipids, the magazines and the publications I read, or the medical textbooks. But the physicians don’t read them anymore after they’re out of medical school. And the biggest mistake the whole medical community made early on was, Remember I told you, it’s 4 to 1 in all the tissues. The majority of the tissues and organs like the brain, not the brain, but. The liver. The kidneys. The heart. They thought all the parents would be converted to derivatives. So DHEA, EPA, like a fish oil, is called the derivative. We start with the parent type, the parents and the offspring, and they get bigger. They elongate. It’s not shorter. It’s longer. They thought all of them would be converted to derivatives. So let’s make it easy on the body. Give everybody a ton of derivatives. You make it easy, except. Today with high resolution chromatography. One tenth of 1% go to derivatives. So from those parents, one part in a thousand go to derivatives, almost nothing. Let’s just stay in parent form.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:12:50] Brian, let me just because you’ve thrown up a lot there and yes, I am sure you have. And I just want to come back to my original thing about Fats. And you’ve made a very strong point about the importance of Omega six and the disproportionately high it is. What’s your view of the demonisation of saturated fats through our public health story?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:13:12] You’re right. It’s been demonised. Now, saturated fat can’t combine with anything. So it is your ideal fat to fry in because can’t get screwed up, it can’t become rancid. So I love cooking, especially deep frying coconut oil, which is 93% saturated. Wonderful oil you can use mono unsaturated, meaning there’s one double bond like avocado oil. Olive oil can be used, but not the best because it has a lower smoke point. So avocado oil is for 40 degrees before it starts smoking. Coconut oil is 400 degrees and you want to make sure they’re organic so there is no chemicals and they’re not poison when you’re eating them. And I calculated just one teaspoon of oil with 1% processing. Will have sitting at the gate outside those hundred trillion cells, 30,000 cells, 30,000 molecules, rather, of bad fat warning that come in. So I know martial arts. You put 30,000 people in front of me and that is going to blow me over. Thank God they don’t go into the cell because Dr. Landes proved with radioisotope testing in 1990. The amount of bad oils in the cell is proportional to what you’re eating. So if I’m eating half good organic oils and half supermarket oils, it’s 5050 in the cell, even though they’re all waiting to get in and they don’t get in, but they have inflammation.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:15:04] Can I ask you another another question about the fact.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:15:07] That no issue and there’s no saturated fat in an arterial clot? Excellent question. It’s 87% omega six that’s been processed. It’s been in arterial block. This is in the heart disease journals. And nobody is saying this. Even the American Heart Association back in 2009,15 years ago said to call omega six inflammatory is wrong. It is highly anti-inflammatory. You have a naive understanding of biochemistry. So that’s how bad our medical profession is in America. And then unfortunately, the rest of the world follows us. They forgot what was said 15 years ago. The medical profession. It always starts with me. There is no history. I’m an engineer by training and you watch the engineering shows and it’s always the brilliant invention. Today was based on the brilliant engineer that came up with this ten years ago who stood on the shoulders of the genius engineer from 50 years ago. In medicine now there’s no history. It’s just me, me, me. And what’s happening? America is the sickest developed.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:16:27] Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it’s also interesting what you just said there about clocks being primarily omegas.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:16:33] Six, 87%.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:16:35] 87%. And yet the Heart Foundation’s will be telling us. Yeah. To avoid saturated fat there’s.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:16:43] None in there.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:16:44] But but to consume and this is actually part of what I often say. It’s a great business model, just not a very good health model that that, you know, the advice by the Heart Foundation to avoid saturated fat and lead canola oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil, which makes up the majority of the clot, is quite a remarkable public health message.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:17:07] It’s disgusting. Let me tell you where this came from. So I’ve got two references right here. It’s white. These glasses on Felton. Quote Dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids and compositions of human aortic plaque. Lancet identification and quantification of unique fatty acid oxidative products in human atherosclerotic plaque using high performance lipid chromatography. So you can analyse what’s in there. So isn’t somebody guessing? Annals of Biochemistry structure elucidation of oxygenated lipids in human atherosclerotic lesions eicosanoids. That’s. The long chain derivatives of the parent. That’s the technical term. They’re called an eicosanoid That’s prostaglandins leukotrienes. Three major medical references. Journals, the best in the world. They’re not touched by the medical profession. It’s sinful. It is very, very hard because I know. Not like you do. And people go, Yeah, but the Heart Association says, If my doctor says this, yeah, you’re all wrong. But truth, that doesn’t seem to matter. It’s really, really harmful. That’s why I get so passionate about this.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:18:28] Me too. Me too, Brian. And that’s why we’re talking. Now, one other question. I’m still back on our first thing about Fats. Yeah, Something we hear also a lot about is that meat. You know, animals that are pasture fed have a better balance of omega three and omega six and P and those that are in feedlots or caged or, you know, high, high industrial meat production are disproportionately high in omega six and and have very little omega three. What’s your reaction to that, that message?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:19:04] Well, remember, we need 12 to 1, omega six to omega three in the body. So you need a pile of omega six. The feedlots are feeding them corn, which no cow would eat on its own. Now, if you grow up eating that, they have to live on grass. When they’re younger, they die. The meat industry tried shoving corn down them because it’s cheaper right out of the block and they all died. So what you’ll see is, you know, grown with corn but finished with grass or initially with grass. But you’re right now grass is one of the very few foods high in omega three. Way more omega three lettuces, too. But there’s very few foods. And what you’ll hear is like Seventh Day Adventist. They’re so healthy because the omega three and the nuts walnuts there is omega three in the walnut. What they’ve conveniently forgot to tell you is there’s five times more omega six in the walnut. So the ratio is 5 to 1 apparent omega six to Mega three even. And this is very interesting to show you how little is the omega three one. The grass is mainly omega three, but in the grass fed cow, it’s 2 to 1 parent, omega six to parent omega three. So the body burns it all up in the cow, even in the big dumb cow. Nature doesn’t want the three. And here we’re told, not the parent to take all the derivatives, DHEA, EPA. And what’s happening is those over dosages are displacing the parent omega six and all the cells. And that’s why we’re getting all these diseases. But very good point. The body wants very little parent omega three and it wants almost no value from fish. And Dr. Romanoff also said, Brian, here’s six cultures that are landlocked. They eat no fish at all. Tell me how much brain impairment they have and how much visual impairment? Zero. So we keep getting misled. My joke, doc, is everything the average person knows about nutrition and they know a lot is wrong. It’s not based on science. What got me into this whole field is I’m an electrical engineer from M.I.T. by training. So the inputs, the food. You’re the system systems guy. The output is your state of health. My wife became type one diabetic at age 30, doing everything America said was right. Doctor’s recommendations, right. Or worse. And it’s Brian, your science guy. What the hell do I do? So luckily, MD Anderson has one of the top ten medical libraries in America. It’s called the Jesse Jones Library. M.D. Anderson, if you don’t know, is the biggest cancer centre in the world. And they were kind enough to let me spend five years researching there. And it was my goodness. The science is here. What we’re being told is the exact opposite. Somebody has to start writing. So I’ve done four books, highly science based and giving people the science, and if they like my website, they can get that too. So like, all the thoughts are all in digital form. These books are classics in their field. And because people don’t read books anymore, Doc, we don’t publish them in book form. We do electronic. But at least people can get them. So there’s one on cancer. There’s one on the oils. It’s called PEO Solution with Dr. Rowan. There is one on a 24 hour diet because the doctors were asking me. What diet do I do to give my patients so everyone has the same guts? But it’s a different focus of it’s cancer. What do I eat? What oils do I take? It’s made for you.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:22:58] So, yeah, and I wanted to talk a bit about all of that. But the other one before we leave the oil. Basic question is what’s your view of fish oils given the toxicity of the ocean in which we now live? I used to think that that actually heavy metal was the problem, but now plastics permeate even the smallest of fish. What’s your view of fish oils as as an essential nutrient, you know, supplement or nutrient?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:23:28] Now you raise a very I’m going through. You raised a very, very good thing. The oceans are toxic as heck now. So any fish, you. You better. Really know what kind of fish are eating and any kind of fish that’s farmed is horrible too, because they’re giving them all antibiotics, which is very, very, very bad. And fish oil is physiologically the wrong substance. Remember I told you a phrase for fish. Here’s the next thing everybody needs to know. First thing is for you. Open your mouth and go dosages. How much DHEA does the brain use a day? Have you ever seen this written by anybody? Have you ever seen I’m asking you, have you ever seen it in a journal, in a publication, Anything?
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:24:29] Well, I haven’t, but that does. But go on, make the point….
Prof Brian Peskin [00:24:32] No, nobody has because it’s not done. And the answer is 2 to 6mg. Now, if you compare this with the dosages these geniuses are prescribing in 1000 milligram fish oil capsule, which is rather standard, 16% of his VHA EPA, 60% of 1600 watt 600 divided by two. Yep. A big 350. Yeah. What? So we are getting a hundred. The 300 times overload. Per capsule. You have the health profession telling you you need 4000mg a day of fish oil. And you are getting such an overdose. That is just beyond belief. Hundred to 300 times overdose per each nutritional capsule. But that perspective, take 100 aspirin. Call me in the morning. Don’t. I’m being very facetious. You will bleed to death and die. This is what the health profession is doing on a daily basis with fish oil. Here’s where it came up. Imaging Incorporation of circulating DHEA into the human brain using pet tomography. Journal of Lipid Research. So the scientific information is there. You are getting none of it. And people spout out anything on the Internet and it’s absolutely horrific. Fish oil is a toxic poison. You don’t need it. Any normal human being can convert all the parent omega three to the DHEA. Even if they have no fish. There’s plenty of people that don’t eat fish. That’s where I come from. Don’t eat algae. It actually comes from algae. The fish eat the algae. The fish don’t make DHEA. The algae has it, but it is a super pharmacologic overdose of poison. Brian, the brains loaded with DHEA. I just told you it is. It’s 14% DHEA. It’s also 10% arachidonic acid, which is from the omega six side. But you’re only getting 4 to 6mg a day. Well, the first thing that comes to mind is. Wait a minute. I got a big brains 4% of body weight. How long does that take? Hanging around two and a half years. That’s the half life of the brain. Meaning half of it stays, then it degrades.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:27:27] Yeah.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:27:29] Case got half years. So why is it not going back for more actions in the brain? But what happens is you get a genius telling you to take fish oil supplements. You take them, they spontaneously go bad. Oxidised, which is rusting at room camp. Remember, we’re 98 six, so it’s going spontaneously. Oxidising. All the antioxidants come from the brain and everywhere else. To try and stop the oxidation from what you just state. And now you have. No antioxidants in the brain. G in America. Don’t know how it is where you are rampant. Rampant. Alzheimers, dementia. Frontal lobe. No critical thinking.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:28:21] Yes.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:28:23] It is. Or is it, man?
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:28:26] Yeah. Neurodegenerative disease.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:28:28] We didn’t have any of that any years ago.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:28:30] Are affecting young, young and old. Young and old.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:28:35] Anymore. And a lot of it is we’re killing ourselves unknowingly.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:28:39] Yeah. Well, you know, this is a subject we explore for many different directions on this program. And there are many different directions that we could be killing ourselves with. Another term that you are you’ve used. And I have to admit. I mean, I’ve been interested in nutritional medicine for a long time, but you’ve used the word parent oil, and it may be my own fault, but it’s not a term that we hear a lot about. You don’t used it. You’ve used it a few times already in our conversation. Let’s just back up a little bit here and talk about parent. What what does parent oil mean?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:29:15] I didn’t come up with that. I came up with parent essential oils forgot but parent is the term that LA. Linoleic acid. That’s the omega six they’re talking about in the seeds that are toxic. And they are toxic only if they’re processed, not organic. And. That’s the parent. So there’s parent omega six and parent Omega three, ALA alpha-linoleic acid. Those are the two EFA stands for essential fatty acids. I don’t like the term because you hear the word acid and it’s a chemistry term. It’s not like hydrochloric or sulphuric acid. So I coined the term parent essential oils. Those are the only term two. If you don’t get them from food, you have 100 trillion cells that are deficient. And nobody except me is talking about this one guy trying to help the whole world. So the weight on my shoulders is pretty big and they are all tied to anti inflammation. On the omega six side, you’re told, the omega three is so big on anti-inflammatory. Next to zero, it’s all the omega six side, starting with PGE-1. It’s called Prostaglandin Series one. And the way it goes is how do you make these derivatives? It starts with the parents and then there’s an enzyme delta six desaturatase. It’s called B6 D. That’s what breaks it apart and starts making it longer. And the first thing it does is it allows PGE one prostaglandins series. One is by far the strongest anti-inflammatory there is. And in nine diseases and disorders, it is known there is an impairment in the Delta six pathway because once it’s chronically inflamed it’s just gone. You can’t bring it back. So what I do is work on, thank God we can help compensate for that impairment and bypass it, bypass most of it. So even if it’s not working, we still get the effect as though it works. But the parents are key and everybody’s concentrating on the derivatives, the complete wrong thing. And again, fish oil, antifreeze for a fish, you’re getting a pharmacologic overdose of hundreds of times, overdose on a daily basis, killing yourself. And the worst part is the fish oil displaces is the omega six. You’ve heard of the mitochondria, right? Of course. Of course. The energy producers. For every tissue and organ you have in your body. This is where the energy comes from. And there’s hundreds of mitochondria per cell. So we have 100 trillion cells. Most of those cells have 10 to 100 mitochondria. There is an inner layer of the mitochondria. It’s called cardiolipid and it’s all parent omega six loaded on the internet with people saying it’s omega three either lying because they know my work. I’m very well known in America or they just don’t know. Either way, I don’t care because they’re all putting their mouths killing people. Americans have no energy and they don’t heal. And the reason is the mitochondria. Isn’t working and our aOtto Warburg’s work with cancer was all in the mitochondria and it’s all tied to the parent Omega six. So it’s a tragic, tragic state of affairs. You hit it right in the head. You need the parent Omega six, parent of three, the PEOs and everything else takes care of itself. You do not need. Where do you think fish oil came from? Rotten fish. What happened? I was around when this started. By the way, I’d go to the health shows and they’d be selling this stuff. I look at the distributors. Just selling any? No. People didn’t want it. But after a $100 million campaign lasting ten years conning everybody. But just imagine, you’re a top restaurant and I’m a fisherman and I have all this bad fish. I can’t sell it to them. What do you do with it? Fish oil. My joke is people are so desperate and so sick, they’ll buy anything. And the nutritional industry preys on these people and takes waste products and turns them into supplements.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:34:11] Hi, Dr Ron. Here it. I want to invite you to join our Unstress Health community. Now, like this podcast, it’s independent of industry and focuses on taking a holistic approach to human health and to the health of the planet. The two are inseparable. There are so many resources available with membership, including regular live Q&A on specific topics with special guests, including many with our amazing Unstress Health Advisory Panel that we’ve done hundreds of podcasts over listening to with some amazing experts on a wide range of topics. Many are world leaders, but with membership we have our Unstress Blend podcast series where we take the best of several guests and carefully curated specific topics for episodes which are jam packed full of valuable insights. So join the Unstress health community. If you’re watching this on our YouTube channel. Click on the link below or just visit unstresshealth.com to see what’s on offer and join now. I look forward to connecting with you. Cod liver oil was something that traditionally was used a lot, wasn’t it? Even before the before the supplement industry got going on it. And, you know, the problem, of course, was it it had a fishy smell or taste.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:35:35] Smell a problem. One here, this one, you won’t believe it goes 1996, Norway. Trying to buy water. Want a lot of fishing. Beautiful cancer registry. They looked at like 90,000 people. That didn’t have cancer when they started and then had cancer. The women taking cod liver oil had three times the melanoma, which is a very vicious skin cancer, three times more in melanoma from taking the fish oil. This is the best registry in the world. Pathology was done on everyone, so they weren’t. Gasping is a cancer, isn’t it? And there was a 20 year follow up. So take cod liver oil and throw it back on the toilet, too. You’re not a fish. You don’t need it.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:36:28] Okay, Now, listen, you do.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:36:31] In the International Journal of Cancer, 1996. This is a medical journal thing that somebody should be reading. Why don’t the doctors know this? Because everything starts with me. There is no history.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:36:45] Well, if it hasn’t been put in the.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:36:48] Journal of Cancer and Forgotten.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:36:51] Yeah. Now, now, you mentioned Otto Warburg, and I know you’ve written about this, too, in your book, The Hidden Story of Cancer. Yeah. Let’s remind let’s remind our listener a little bit, because, I mean, cancer is a big, big deal. It’s it’s been it’s a huge industry and it’s seen traditionally as a genetic problem. But of course, Otto Warburg was around in the 1930s. And his idea that cancer as a metabolic disease finding traction. We’ve actually had Thomas Seyfried on the program.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:37:24] Yeah. Yeah, I know about it.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:37:26] To tell us tell us a little bit about Otto Warburg, remind our listener how that work is relevant to us today.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:37:32] Sure, Otto, Warburg was the greatest physiologist of the 20th century M.D., Ph.D. Nobel Prize winner, did not win the Nobel Prize for discovering anything about cancer. People make a huge mistake with that. What Otto Warburg did show with cancer is 35% decrease in cellular oxygenation, even intermittent meaning it’s a decrease and then it’s normal decrease in normal over years. Cancer is spontaneously induced. So the thing is not the pulse oximeter you put your finger in. At least in America, they put the pulse oximeter and you got 92 to 98% oxygen saturation. That’s irrelevant. You will have 92 to 98 unless you have a disease. Then it could go in the 70s. But this is cellular and you’re never going to get it measured because you got to have. Be in the hospital and get surgery and have him go in there. It was proven in 53 and 55 with Goldblatt and Cameron. They deprived heart tissue of oxygen over two years. Every one of the cells became cancerous. Then there was another brilliant test where mould spores will not germinate in an oxygen environment. So they gave more spores to animals, deprived the oxygen. They all got cancer and the oxygenated blood. And those animals didn’t get cancer. So it’s completely verified in America. Every scientist hated Warburg because he was a Jew working for Hitler, because Hitler was petrified of getting cancer. His mother died of breast cancer. Warburg didn’t care about the politics and he didn’t do anything with that. He just had his lab, but conclusively showed lack of cellular oxygenation is the problem. And in America, Campbell in 1976 looked at cystic fibrosis patients and wrote a superb journal article about how you need the parent omega six in the cell to get the cellular oxygen so oxygen can come into the cell. And it gets bounced off. If the cell has plastic. That’s your hydrogenated oil. If it doesn’t have the right structure and it’s adulterated, not organic and processed, the oxygen won’t diffuse through and the hormones won’t go in like insulin. In America, we have the biggest. You know, insulin resistance you have ever seen. Everybody in America is becoming diabetic. It’s just horrible. And it’s because of the processed food. But Warburg is absolutely correct. So if you can oxygenate the cell and the best way to do that is with the PEOs,s the parent oils, because you have 100 trillion cells. So there’s one prime cause of cancer. That’s what Warburg had. There’s hundreds of secondary like asbestos. What does it do? It inflames it irritates what’s active, sucks up oxygen. Ask any physician. They’ll say, how do I get rid of anything? And the answer is oxygenated ozone therapy. Dr. Rowan, you know my colleague here,hyberbaric chamber. Any doctor? Hypoxia is horrible. That’s a low oxygen tension. So the answer to curing all diseases is oxygen, oxygen, oxygen. And these oils are the best way. They’re the analogy of being in the hyperbaric chamber 24 hours a day. And it’s so easy. Vitamins are nothing compared with this. Nothing will help you get oxygen. Except these oils. Nothing. I don’t care what you hear. It won’t do it.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:41:42] Yeah. And I mean, there’s no doubt that this whole processed food and the applications of the fats play a major role. I think there’s another aspect to the metabolic story that is has contributed to the perfect storm, and that is the demonisation of the sun and our bathing ourselves in radiation
Prof Brian Peskin [00:42:03] Agree with you more? Yeah. Yeah.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:42:06] So there’s an absolute.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:42:06] As they used to say. Sanitarium you would go out in the sun. And here’s the problem today. You take all this fish oil, it gets displaced into the skin. Skin is all omega six. You’re gonna make three in there. There’s no fish oil in there. But if I take the fish oil capsules like you’re told, the Omega six gets displaced. Then you start getting these age spots technically called lipofuscin. It’s the brown age spots. It’s not the UVA rays of the sun. It’s the heat. What did I tell you? Happens to fish oil at room temp? Spontaneously rusts, spontaneously oxidises. Now you get out in the sun, you get 100 degree skin, all the fish oil in your skins. Going bad, why didn’t you have skin cancer like this 50 years ago before the fish oil craze? We had none of this. So I look at why didn’t we have these problems 50 years ago? Why do we have now and what on earth has changed? And you look at everything. Wealthy people get all these diseases, too. So it can’t be just socioeconomic can be a little but not that what we’re eating. One common thing, we’re all breathing the same stuff. You’re stuck breathing, polluted air, whatever, but you’re not stuck eating the same polluted food. You can go organic. You can minimise it. And that’s the difference. It’s not genetic. And back to cancer. I forgot to say this. Weinberg, an MIT guy originator of the oncogene that is genetic, wrote a book. One Renegade Cell changed the whole thing. The oncogene theory did not coincide with reality. There’s not enough genetic mutations to cause cancer. You need like 7 or 8 per million base pairs of DNA. There’s three. Inflammation now takes centre stage. That’s his words. That’s his quote. I’m an M.D. Anderson Cancer. Biggest cancer place in the world. You think they know that? Now, medical professionals, 20 years ago, they’re all back with the oncogene. And it’s just like BRCA gene for breast cancer gene. Anybody tell you the majority of women with that gene don’t get cancer? How the heck can it be causal? It never ends. Every word out of their mouth. You want the answer, you’re going to get one and it will be wrong. My charter is if I don’t know the answer, I’m obligated to tell you that because I follow Richard Feynman, another Nobel Prize winner. But in physics and you can’t make things up. And in your theory, if it doesn’t coincide with all the facts, you’re obligated to tell, hey, it works all right here, but not over here. They don’t do that either. They just don’t mention where it doesn’t work. Like with the BRCA gene, they won’t tell you the majority of women way that don’t get it. Why? Because it’s called epigenetics. Meaning what? I eat. How do you think it change? What happens? So the. genes, the DNA has to go what’s called methylated. It’s like an on off switch. And that happens like, you know, by what you’re eating. So we keep getting lied to, misled. And if you don’t learn this stuff on your own, you are doomed. It’s tragic. I go to Cigar Lounge. Obviously, I know something about anti= inflammation, so it doesn’t bother me. Poor guy there. Nice guy. Got a stent. Had a heart attack. A week ago, I leave, I got a text from a buddy of mine, you know, the guy that just got the stent? Yeah, He just collapsed and died of a heart attack. What happened was it was a botched up surgery, I’m guessing. I don’t know. But by deduction. And he got a blood clot to the brain or to the lung, probably to the brain from the stent, which doesn’t even work anyway. All it does is it takes the the plaque and shoves it over. so you all, it’s just shoving it over. It’s no solution at all. But it doesn’t stop. It just doesn’t stop. It’s one illness or death after another. It’s just so sad. It’s so easy to all this stuff.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:46:37] Yeah, well, look, we, I mean, this is a common theme that we’ve explored on this podcast many times. And and that is some of the public health messages and some of the approaches are more driven by a business model than a health model. But let’s get positive about let’s come now to what these parent essentials are. Someone saying, I want to be taking a parent essential oil. What is some of the you’re saying it should be unprocessed seed oil is the way to.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:47:08] Go to get it because seed oil is the best way to get these oils in your body as long as they’re organic, unprocessed, number one way, relatively inexpensive. There’s companies that sell I know there’s one that does sell to Australia where.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:47:27] You are, so it’s unprocessed. Things like flaxseed.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:47:32] Oil, actually. Yep.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:47:34] Doesn’t matter as long as it’s unprocessed or right ratio.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:47:38] So there’s more omega six and omega three. I like a formula that’s 2 to 1, two and a half to one in favour. Parent Omega six the parent Omega three. So sunflower is great for the omega six safflower, flax is good for the omega three. It has some omega six, but it’s a backwards ratio. So you cannot just take flax oil, don’t take barrage oil. That’s a very bad oil. It makesthromboxin A2, so it makes the platelets stick together. There’s no way anybody can know this. I like having some GLA from evening primrose oil so it bypasses that delta six desaturatase the nine diseases are cardio vascular disease have an impairment diabetes both type one type two. Even if you’re shooting insulin it does not repair the pathway. Respiratory COPD, Alzheimers, fatty liver disease, the skin ailments like eczema, some others, nine of them that are in the medical journals that have a known impairment. And the medical profession doesn’t even talk about this.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:48:53] So this is why when when we say cold pressed, is that a is that a sign that it is unprocessed? When we see that it’s.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:49:01] A great hole for the right direction, it means it stays cold because if you don’t do that, it can go up to 400 degrees and get chemically ruined. Like I told you, the smoke point in these oils, you know, could be under 400. So they’re bringing up the 450. The oil is rancid in that bottle.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:49:23] But this is in the production on the.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:49:25] Label production called.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:49:27] Cold pressed olive oil or cold.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:49:29] Pressed. Okay. If it’s not cold pressed run, so cold presses a major way there. But that’s not even enough. It doesn’t say anything about the chemicals, so they get no chemical and cold pressed organic again, have high heat and it can’t have chemicals before.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:49:52] Yeah. Now before we came on, we just touched on we just talked about coronary calcium CT score have been gone. Yeah, it’s a big topic and we’ve covered it on this program with our resident integrative cardiologist, Dr. Ross Walker, who has for the last 20 or 25 years been saying it is the gold standard in predicting cardiovascular risk.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:50:16] When you have cholesterol in America, they know it, but the cardiologists don’t talk about it because there’s no drug to reverse coronary artery calcium. That’s the last stage of heart disease. It’s a hard plaque. So what that’s going to do is raise the heck out of your blood pressure, see the arteries supposed to be flexible like a balloon. But when I have the calcium in there, makes it like a straw. So that’s your 120 over 80 flexible. It’s going to be 140 over 120 or 90 or 100 with a straw could be two. 100 over 180. But you’re going to have a straw for an artery and you’re going to die. But CAC is the number one predictor of death from heart disease.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:51:03] Yes. Sobering.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:51:04] To make a difference, we’ve done. Testing. It’s non-contrast. CT So very low radiation CT Scan. We proved it.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:51:17] now we were talking about this and you were talking about this easy. EZtrek
Prof Brian Peskin [00:51:25] EZtrek is a medical food for anti inflammation. We have that category in the States. I don’t know what you havein Oz, but there’s another supplements called Your Essential Supplements within S. So if you pull that up on the internet, that is also effective in impeding the progression because if it’s anti inflammation, we’re not stopping in disease, we’re helping compensating for an impaired pathway. But I know they sell that to Australia.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:51:57] What is in that? What is some of the compliance.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:52:00] Details like sunflower oil, flax oil, pumpkin seed oil in the right ratio? So it’s not just the oil, it’s blending them. And the reason you blend them is so if anybody is overly sensitive back to, say, one particular oil, you minimise that. So virtually no one is hypersensitive to the blend of oils because so little of each is in there when you add them up. But overall it has to be within certain ratios. And if you don’t know the physiology like I gave you of the 4 to 1 in the organs, the six and a half in the muscles, you’re not going to be able to design it. You’re playing in the dark. They’re all amateurs. This is all I do. I live with the phase and in carcinoid I have one colleague, Paul Beatty. Toronto, Canada. That’s it. No drug company has anybody like me working there. I’ve asked people, do you have any physiologic EFA guy like me? Well, we have people that measure lipids in the bloodstream. No, not talking in the bloodstream. That’s the pathway. That’s the highway I’m talking about in the tissue itself and what’s needed. No, we don’t do that.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:53:18] And you have shown and you have claimed that that you can reverse the coronary calcium CT Score We went out.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:53:27] Yes.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:53:27] Over what period of time and how much of a reaction does one say?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:53:32] Six months to a year typically takes time to a long time for you to get there. But thank god you can reverse it.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:53:40] And what kind of what kind of a change does one say? Like a 5% reduction.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:53:45] And the study we did was 14%.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:53:50] 14%. But in camp.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:53:51] The people doing nothing in I was actually 17%. And the people, the control group doing nothing, 14% increase. So the ones taking the PEO based formulation got -17% decrease that the ones that weren’t taking it increased 14%. So the overall difference between the two groups was 30 plus percent, which is astronomical to get a drug, any 20%, that’s all. So we think we made a drug and it’s organic.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:54:27] Interesting. Interesting. Well, we’ll obviously have links to that. I’m intrigued to know, given your whole focus on fats and oils, what the role of diet is in overall health. What kind of advice do you give people to, you know, to deal with their chronic disease state?
Prof Brian Peskin [00:54:43] Good question. We mentioned off air, ketogenic diet style, absolutely low carb. This is not open to discussion. We have one teaspoon of sugar in the bloodstream. I tell everybody when I was looking at this 25 years ago, $5 million per decilitre. I’m an engineer. Okay. I’m a practical guy. What does that translate to? I like these phones. Ten minutes later, a teaspoon. It’s impossible. I must be off by, you know, a factor of a hundred or something. No, there’s one teaspoon of sugar in our five quarts of blood. And we have sensors. So you, me and everybody else, unless we’re diabetic. Insulin is tied to one tenth of 1%, one part in a thousand. That’s how tight the centre is for sugar. So one teaspoons in the bloodstream. So the next logical question is. How much is the average American eating 100 teaspoons worth? The other 99 go body fat. Why? Because insulin. Why? Because in a carbohydrate. Yeah. Something called glycerol three phosphate that’s needed to store body fat. Interesting. So carbs make me fat. Is there an RDA for carbs? No. Interesting. So how do I get rid of this fat? The exercise craze. You better be making exercise your second job. What if I don’t want to get fat to begin with? Don’t eat the carbs. But, Brian, the brain runs on glucose. No, it doesn’t. You’re forcing it to run and glucose supposed to be running on ketones and fatty acids. Fat and oils is what the brain is supposed to run on. But we’re forcing it to run on sugar. Next question. Eat a ton of protein. Eat a pound steak. That’s all Going to go to fat, isn’t it? Now, protein. Can I go to fat? No. Cholesterol. Three fat rate. No insulin response. Sorry. Can’t know it. Yeah. People going. Yeah, but it goes to sugar somewhere in the body. I just care about glycemic in the bloodstream. It doesn’t do your own test. Eight. Six eggs, blood sugar won’t go up at all. No carbs in their. Will fat go to fat? No. No. Glycerol three phosphate. No insulin response. Talk to any diabetic endocrinologist. Fat cannot go to fat. Now, if you eat a pile of fat, like in the ketogenic diet, you won’t burn your existing fat. So here’s the difference. Fat is the number one fuel. You burn for energy. There’s much more fat in the f h going into the bloodstream for energy than there is sugar. And that’s what we’re supposed to do. But with the high carb diet, we shorted it out. So ketogenic diet? Absolutely. I just called it low carb. Intermittent fasting. You’re much better off eating once a day. Not at night, because the dumbest thing you can do and I used to do it myself.high stress job. I used to eat a pizza at ten at night. Go to bed. Two, three in the morning. I’m up needing a quart of water. Here’s something everybody needs to know. Do things. Every ounce of carbohydrates. You need three ounces of water. It’s like a sponge. So carbohydrates do suck water. Oh Brian When you go on a low carb diet, all you’re doing is losing water weight for three days. That’s it. Then you’re losing fat. Number two, burn this in your memory. 20 Every 20 calories a carbohydrate is a teaspoon of sugar. So it’s very easy to look at those labels and go, how much sugar am I getting? So like, all these cereals, all this stuff that have a pizza, 40, 61 gram or every five grams, because now they’ll put it in grams. Because in America, you know.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [00:58:42] That you guys are still a little bit behind.
Prof Brian Peskin [00:58:45] Yeah, Yeah, we’re a lot behind. So every five grams you could be eating 40 teaspoons of sugar in a pizza. It doesn’t take much. And we are killing ourselves in America. The average person has become a walking house. The average American is now either overweight or a downright pig. And what they’re doing on TV, you see 400 pounders commonplace because they’re pandering to the audience. The doctors are acting like it’s no problem. I just have one question for you. How many £200 overweight people you see at 80 years old? I’ll give you the answer. None. They’re all dead. So here’s how stupid America is. And I’m one of us. So I can say that I don’t care. Fat and Fit was on the cover of Time magazine. You can be a fat pig and fit. Are you out of your mind? I’m an engineer. The load on the bones. No, you can’t. We’re made to look normal. If you look at the older movies in the 1940s. 50s, 60s. These. Nobody was fat. Well, oh Brian it’s genetic ..I was driving on a major road. Went by a school. Elementary. Look at all these. Must have been 20 between 6 and 10. Not one fat kid. There was zero. I graduated high school. We had three overweight people out of 251 had a glandular problem. That’s what we called it back then. The other two, I don’t know what it was. Three overweight people out of 250. Now, you’d be hard pressed in America any way to find three normal people out of 200? It’s just completely flipped. It’s tragic. And it’s so easy to fix this. Also, the PEOs parent essential oils naturally fulfil the appetite so we don’t crave the carbs. I get so many people around the world emailing me, Brian. I can’t believe the difference. I don’t crave the pizza, the ice cream, the sun, the cookies. They’re used to being a human Billy goat. Then the nutritionist game. Doc, you’re supposed to eat six small meals a day. Really? Have you never read the textbook of medical physiology, you imbecile? Because it’s very clear in there. Insulin is designed to be produced twice a day. It doesn’t store it. You start eating four times a day. I have no insulin. Now I put stress on the insulin. Now you burn it out, you become type one. Every type to over time becomes type one. They don’t tell you this either. Our own medical professionals are the cause of the problem. We have the blind leading the blind with no science. It’s appalling to me because I’m a hardcore science guy. You think two and two is five? Good for you. You better not design the building because the roof is going to cave in and kill everybody. But because in medicine, the body is so great, Doc, I can give you the wrong stuff. And you don’t die for 30 years cause you’re sick. You’re not optimum. You don’t have the kind of energy I have. I’m up at four. Am I? Go to bed at midnight. Maybe one. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Work my tail off. Grab the cigars and laser attention. But everybody should be like this. And virtually nobody is because they’re listening. Garbage on the Internet from health. People that don’t know what they’re talking about.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [01:02:25] Well, Brian, that’s probably a great night for us to finish on. And I must say, so much of what you’ve said today resonates with us and with, you know, so many other things that you’ve said. And I love your passion. I share your passion. And we will, of course, have links to your site and more information about you. So thank you so much for joining us today.
Prof Brian Peskin [01:02:47] My pleasure. Thanks so much.
Dr Ron Ehrlich [01:02:48] Well, now I know we have done programs on ancestral diets and on the effect of seed oils. And I think it’s important to stress two words for which there is unequivocal. Problems with, and that is the processed nature of well, to which one? The processed nature of seed oils and. And I think Brian has raised the point being both unprocessed, cold pressed and organic are important features of the Omega six oil story, which makes it a little more nuanced. I thought it was also interesting to hear him comment on the fact that he feels we’re taking far too much fish oils. Look, it is a nuanced discussion. I always go back to what is, you know, the wonderful world of food, whole foods and how they come to us. And I always think that’s a great position to fall back on. Anyway, we’ll have links to Brian, and some of Brian’s work and his sites and you can explore that more. And of course he’s written those four books and I guess I would suggest The PEO Solution parent essential oil solution might be an interesting read, particularly in this area. And of course, the story of The Hidden Story of Cancer, which brings out, again, highlights the work of Otto Warburg, which is an important focus in health care in general. I hope this find you will. Until next time, this is Dr. Dr Ron Ehrlich. Be well. Feeling stressed. Overwhelmed. It’s time to Unstress your life. Join the Unstress Health community and transform stress into strength. Build mental fitness from self-sabotage to self-mastery. And together, let’s not just survive, but thrive. Expert led courses, curated podcasts, like minded community and support, and much more. Visit unstresshealth.com today. This podcast provides general information and discussion about medicine, health and related subjects. This content is not intended and should not be construed as medical advice or is a substitute for care by a qualified medical practitioner. If you or any other person has a medical concern, he or she should consult with an appropriately qualified medical practitioner. Guests who speak in this podcast express their own opinions, experiences and conclusions.
